Dane Rudhyar & Carl Jung

We're going to look at a connection between Dane Rudhyar's chart and Carl Jung's chart using the B.I.D.E. Interpretive System.

The connection is the 25th degree of Aquarius and holds Jung's Saturn and Rudhyar's Moon. That particular degree is within two degrees of my chart's Descendant or 7th House cusp.

These two men had a deeply profound influence on my growth into astrology and the blending of their teachings definitely influenced my creation of the B.I.D.E. Interpretive System.

If you need a little background on these two men's ideas, try this link for Dane Rudhyar and this link for Carl Jung.

When I consider their influence on my interpretive System and the close conjunction between one's Saturn and the other's Moon, as well as those planets' conjunction with my 7th House, I can safely say that the way I Relate (7th) to the world {especially with the B.I.D.E. System} has a strongly blended impact of Saturnian and Lunar power. In fact, to understand the purpose of my reason for creating my System, an exploration of the Rudhyar/Jung connection has deep explanatory capacity.

So... You may want to reference the Planet/Sign/House and Full-Cycle Aspects pages before we get started...

First, Jung's Saturn (retrograde) in Aquarius in his 1st House:

There are four interpretive words for Saturn in the System and for this example I'll choose "Defining"; and, that defining is highly individualized due to its retrogradation (I'll use the word "Uniquely" to indicate this). For his Aquarius, I choose "Group-Consciousness". For his 1st House, "See Things Clearly". Now, we can put those together (with the usual "in order to") and we get:

Uniquely Defining Group-Consciousness in order to See Things Clearly.

Now, Rudhyar's Moon in Aquarius in his 2nd House:

For his Moon I'll choose "Nurturing"; for Aquarius, "Humanitarian Considerations"; and, for his 2nd House, "Focus on Resources". Putting them together we have:

Nurturing Humanitarian Considerations in order to Focus on Resources.

Now, we need a phrase for the conjunction between those planets. I'll choose "Engenders New Possibilities by". To put them together, we need to remember to put the slower planet first:

Uniquely Defining Group-Consciousness in order to See Things Clearly
Engenders New Possibilities by
Nurturing Humanitarian Considerations in order to Focus on Resources.

There...

Now you have my interpretation of how I feel about Sharing (my 7th House) the B.I.D.E. System with You that also expresses the focused blending of the two men who most influenced me to create it.

Kinda cool, eh?

Walt Disney

Walt Disney's chart has a similarity to Barack Obama's—a "Bucket" pattern (most planets in half the chart and two planets as a "handle" or Focal Release). In Obama's chart the handles were in relatively close conjunction; in Disney's chart they are distinct, giving two separate yet allied Focal Releases for Walt's Major Talents.

First I want to encourage you to get the free download of my book or the simplified guide to my interpretive system, so you can follow along and, hopefully, create your own interpretations (and, also, hopefully, post them in the Comments...).

We'll first look at Disney's Sun—his Major Life Purpose:

Sun in Sagittarius in the 3rd House
Vitalizing an Idealistic Awareness in order to Make Connections.

My system gives abstract and affirmative interpretations. The Symbolic Sentences you create are still Symbols and need further interpretation to take them into the realms of the Social, Personal, and Practical.

"Make Connections" in that interpretation may sound utterly abstract until it's remembered that he was a Producer and Showman. Without a major focus on Connections, those jobs just don't fly...

Now, let's consider the two planets that border Disney's major concentration of Talents—the Moon and Venus {true, the Moon is quite unique in its placement in this pattern and could use more intrepretation then I'll give right now. [I do expect to be coming back to the charts in this early phase of the blog and You might just bring the Moon into further discussion in the Comments...]}

Venus in Capricorn in the 5th House
Valuing Structural Innovations in order to Externalize His Creativity.

Moon in Libra in the 1st House
Nourishing Awareness of Others in order to Truly Be Who He Was.

Those two functions defined the scope of Walt's Major Talents (all the other planets in the lower half of his chart). Now, to interpret the two Focal Release functions—the planets that put his Talents into the world (both of these functions were retrograde in his chart and demand a unique perspective when considering the interpretations—they were used by him in extremely individualized ways...):

Pluto in Gemini in the 9th House
Regenerating Conceptual Versatility in order to Realize the Ideal.

Neptune in Cancer in the 10th House
Envisioning Active Feelings in order to Express His Social Role.

Those five planets give a broad and deep sketch of Walt Disney's life potential.

Did they "explain" things about him for You?

Can you create your own interpretations with the system to help us see even more about Disney's basic character?

Questions?

Feedback?

Comments?

Israel

Israel's Chart is only the fifth (following Obama, Joplin, Presley, and Hitler) considered in this blog; and, that's out of 34 posts.

I began the blog in March to introduce my (free-to-download) book and its unique interpretive system to a larger audience, first by taking the time to post the chapters here. I also began the blog to seriously play with the system—show it's usefulness and adaptability. And, since it's an interpretive system, I also hope my readers will offer their alternative interpretations of the charts I present. I'll be using any feedback I receive to help shape the next ten volumes in the series...

The system is Positive, Affirmative, and User-Customizable. Each combination of Planet/Sign/House has at least 64 different interpretations. The book has 14 chapters that explore my "philosophy" of astrology and include instructions for operating the system in the back of the book. I've also prepared a stand-alone guide for the system that's also a free download.

Now, to consider certain factors in the chart of Israel. As far as any commentary on the actions of the State of Israel, I leave that to the Media and Encyclopedists. My system of interpretation was created to help people get to the most honest and positive interpretations of charts so the inner essence of a person, country, or situation could be explored and used to improve our human family's journey on this fantastic planet. The Symbolic Sentences that are created with the system are WordSymbols and need their own brand of interpretation to be used in social, personal, and practical situations. One of my undying convictions is that there is absolutely no use for an astrology that looks for the "good" and "bad", or even the "beneficial" and afflicted". I have thoroughly and exhaustively explored those flavors of astrology and found them dangerous—to my own psyche and to the spirit of those I counsel...

We should be spending the fleeting moments we have on this Earth applying our energies to finding the Best solutions to the challenge presented in every chart we examine.

So...

Here are the Sun and Neptune (which border and define or shape the major Talents of the State of Israel), and the Moon (which is the basic Style of Israel's developmental growth). Also, I'll use the system to interpret Israel's Jupiter (the Focal Release for the rest of the chart). I won't add any further interpretation to the Symbolic Sentences I create from the system, primarily to leave Space for you to comment on what I've done and/or offer alternative interpretations that You create with the system. {if you feel lost trying to respond to these interpretations or coming up with your own, I encourage you to look back to the posts for Hitler, Obama, Presley, and Joplin for hints and tips...}

Remember, I'm making my own choices from 64 different possibilities. Also, what follows is not what Israel is or isn't doing, right or wrong; it's the Best that Israel is capable of doing...

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The Shapers of Israel's Major Talents
Neptune in Libra in the 12th House
Being Idealistic about Considerations of Sharing in order to Realize the Oneness of Life.

Sun in Taurus in the 8th House
Integrating Individual Worth in order to Merge With Others.
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Israel's Basic Style of Growth
Moon in Leo in the 10th House
Nourishing Magnanimous Action in order to Realize Its Highest Objective Goals.
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The Focal Release of Israel's Potential
Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 3rd House
{being retrograde makes this function operate in highly unique ways}
Expanding an Idealistic Awareness in order to Make Connections.
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Your Thoughts, Opinions, Disagreements, Feedback...?

A Positive Interpretation of Hitler's Chart ?

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Overheard at the Café:

Susan: "Well, of course he was evil. His Venus was retrograde in the 7th House. And, his Moon and Jupiter were both in Capricorn—cold man..."

John: "Yes, and Neptune and Pluto in the 8th, my God what a bad position!"

Andy: "Then there's his will-to-power with Mars in Taurus and Saturn in Leo in the 10th..."

Really? Is everyone with Venus retrograde in the 7th and Moon and Jupiter in Capricorn cold?

Know anyone with Neptune and Pluto in the 8th? You do!? Hm... Trick question: they were conjunct back in the late 1800s and won't be again till the 2060s... Do you think they thought or will think that was or will be a bad position?

Mars in Taurus and Saturn in Leo in the 10th... Let's kill 'em all before they breed!

Far too many astrologers are working their craft backwards. They learn a bunch of good/bad "indications" and use them like a bludgeon—beating people with good clubs or bad clubs so they'll fit into the mold—the predetermined "meaning" of the chart factors. No room, it seems, for free will; no time for grace; no patience with positivity...

I've known people to attend a class on positive thinking, leave with malice in their hearts, then claim the methods didn't work.

I've also known people who had all the "bad" aspects and all the "afflicted" positions in their charts who turned out pretty well. In fact, if you look at my chart, you'll understand the utter unfairness of a student of mine, asked to analyze the chart (not knowing it was mine) and tell me who they thought it was. They said, "Charles Manson"...

Naturally, trying to guess who belongs to a chart is a hapless profession but I did the experiment to prove a point—back-reading a laundry-list of "indications" into a chart is exactly the wrong way to do astrology.

Certainly, if someone, due to their own free-will or the oppression of another's free-will, becomes evil, astrology can see the factors that were warped. Try reading this biography of Hitler while keeping in mind what those folks in the Café were saying and you can see some of the places in Hitler's chart where the wrong external or internal pressure was applied. This still does not justify reading a chart and attributing negatives automatically...

It's my very carefully considered opinion, after forty years of study and counseling, that astrology must be used to help foster the positive development and/or help heal the negative experiences of fellow members of our human family.

That's why I took 20 years to create a system of interpretation that was as honestly positive as I could make it—a system that gives people the best possible chance to use the blueprint of their chart to help them develop their latent potential toward constructive and affirmative ends.

This system is available in The Instructions of my free-to-download book, Astrological Repair Manual. In fact, I'm going to use the system to reinterpret those claims made by my imaginary Susan, John, and Andy. 

Since each combination of Planet, Sign, and House can have 64 interpretations in the system, I'm purposely going to choose the ones that emphasize Adolf's challenges. Even though the symbolic sentences produced by the system are positive, I think you'll see where he needed more encouragement at a young age, more positive nurturing, more constructive use of his free-will, more support for the soul inside that was abused and frightened...

Venus retrograde in Taurus in the 7th: (retrogradation demands that the factor be interpreted as highly unique and internalized, capable of development in ways that challenge the norm.)
Valuing Individual Worth in order to Be Aware of the Other Person’s Perspective.
He was not given enough support for his individual worth...

Moon conjunct Jupiter in Capricorn in the 3rd:
Nourishing and Expanding an Objective Attitude in order to Be Aware of his Immediate Environment.
His immediate environment was ill-equipped to help him be objective...

Neptune conjunct Pluto in Gemini in the 8th:
Being Idealistic about and Regenerating Intellectual Freedom in order to Merge With Others.
He got the intellectual freedom part but was impeded in his efforts to merge with others... (the activity in the 8th is a consequence of the activity in the 7th—see Venus and Mars)

Mars in Taurus in the 7th:
Being Driven by Individual Worth in order to Find a Compensating Viewpoint.
The close conjunction with Venus here, and not having had enough support for his individual worth, made the compensation come from his unconscious—the shaky and defensive soul that he didn't feel he could unburden...

Saturn in Leo in the 10th:
Organizing Dramatic Concern in order to Express his Social Role.
He had the drama and could definitely organize it yet his other challenges and his lack of self-worth warped his sense of his social role...

O.K., now it's your turn; to add some feedback or argument in the comments. Or, at least go away from this post considering how you can help support the development of another member of our human family...

The Ancient Warrior

We saw some of the positive potential of chaos in the last post and we're moving on to Mars. Here's part of Chapter 9 from my free-to-download book, Astrological Repair Manual:

"Rusty red, not a gas ball—Mars looms near. Place of pink skies and global sandstorms. Most likely candidate for extensive human settlement—in this solar system. Full cycle real close to two years. Mythological cloak, red with the blood of sex and war...

"Mars, the astrological cycle of
Motivation, Externalization, Drive, and Assertion.

"Yes, Mars the astrological cycle; not Mars the planet. As this book progresses, I’m attempting to talk in two languages while giving you the truth about only one of them. The first language is what most people use to refer to various aspects of astrology. The second language is something that can only be understood through experience. The second language uses most of the basic words from the first language but uses them in different and deeper ways. Like referring to Mars as a cycle. Yes, I know, I’ve called most of the previous cycles 'planets' before divulging their cycles. I think it’s time, since we're getting so close to Earth, to reveal more of the truth. Up until now, I’ve been sliding into the second language slowly. The prime reason is that I’m writing this book for those who know nothing about astrology as well as those with a competent working knowledge. Starting with one language and sliding into the other is a tricky venture, but absolutely necessary if we want to use astrology to truly help ourselves or others. The Instructions (in the free-to-download book) will definitely spell out all the basics in this second language. O.K. Enough disclaimer.

"Since the cycle of Motivation is close to two years, we have an opportunity to discover, and easily check, a concept that explains one of the most perplexing regular occurrences in our experience—the way that things can seem to be going along just fine, and, 'all of a sudden', they slow down or even stop and reverse their trend. In the traditional lexicon of astrology, this is called retrogradation. I personally don’t like the word. Retro may be fine in fashion, but when we need to get things done, it’s a potential bother. Potential only, though. If we can see that there is a natural reason for cycles to progress forward, then appear to retrograde and finally finish their course, we can turn bothers into blessings. Because of the view from Earth, all the planets but the Moon and Sun (I know the Moon is a moon and the Sun is a star but, again, we’re talking in two languages) have a period when they look like they’re going backwards (but they aren’t).

"In terms of cycles, this is a forward motion with a period of time when it’s naturally appropriate to slow down or even reverse our intentions or motivations, check ourselves, analyze plans, and then resume with a better plan, direction, or thrust. Imagine you’re on a train or trolley and you’re passed by another one. There’s a moment when it can seem you’re moving backward. It’s all about relative perceptions. This is one way to understand why the planets seem to retrograde. Now, maybe I can talk about this using only the second language. I’ll be talking about the cycle, Mars, but this phenomenon of retrogradation happens, in different time frames, with all but the Sun and Moon.

"So, at the beginning of the Mars cycle, we’re all full of the rebirth of a new motivation, drive, or period of assertion. We really cruise, plowing through obstacles, climbing mountains of resistance, and making good headway. When we reach the first quarter phase of the cycle, we make a point of reinforcing the strength of our intentions, sometimes shifting gear into a higher vibration of drive. Along we go, and, near the middle of the cycle, things get more uphill, or possibly we find our fuel running low. Maybe others are naysaying our progress. I’m happy to say that this is perfectly natural, even if it is 'against' some of the principles of our highly materialized culture. For a few months out of the two years of the cycle, just when we reach the time of bringing it to personal fulfillment, we should slow down. We’re getting ready for the transition to the second half of the cycle. At this time, it's appropriate to share our motivation and drive with others, even act for them or pick up their loads. We need the time of 'reversal' or slow-down to make sure that we don’t run off past others, that we can moderate the thrust in order to give it social value.

"This phase of the cycle, so necessary to proper growth, has a decided element of internalization about it. A certain reaching-in; finding what the rest of 'us' needs... Our culture often doesn’t like or doesn’t even permit this type of cycle. Hence, many of the frustrations of many of the people! If we were talking about the outer cycles, the internal phase it’s months. When we get to Venus and Mercury, it’s less. For all the functions, there's a time when we need to either slow down or go inside (even if we’re still acting outside) to gain a larger perspective. It happens in the middle, right when youth wants to forge ahead and age sits back and nods...

"Mars itself is usually perceived as all about going forward. But, if you consider the times when a prudent pause actually gave you more energy, this concept will seem more natural. If the Mars cycle only meant forging ahead, thrusting without let-up, it would really have a hard time getting along with the other cycles, causing steam leaks and explosions in our well-crafted psyche. What’s that you say? Oh...

"Another truth about astrology is that, even though it mirrors cycles we have inside, we have the free-will to warp and bend those cycles and energies. There have been times when I’ve thought the main reason to use astrology was to fix what’s broken. Sure, it can help a lot with this kind of healing, but imagine using it before the breakdown, imagine using it to educate children about the natural cycles within themselves, giving them a real head start in life!

"So, what about the Ancient Warrior? This was what folks used to think Mars meant. This is how people have misused this energy for centuries. This is the kind of thinking that this book is out to change. If you look far enough back in the history of the word 'war', you’ll find a meaning close to 'mix'. War is a particularly horrid way of mixing it up. I probably don't have to tell you that it will take many individuals committed to other ways of integrating differing opinions to wipe war off the face of the Earth. Impossible? Only if it’s impossible for people to get along. Impossible? Only if people don’t look for frames of reference that can include their views and others’ at the same time. Impossible? Only if people refuse to try..."

Next post will still be Mars but we'll start to look at the Houses of astrology...