Friday, September 11, 2009

General Astrology Techniques...

Since the most recent tabulation of our survey about what You want to see on this blog shows the categories of "General Astrology Techniques" and "Famous Birth Charts" as ranking higher than other topics, I'm going to devote this post to an examination of Barack Obama's chart, from the stand point of how one first begins to approach an honest and holistic appraisal of any chart...

First, let me quote the previous post on this blog about Obama:

Mr. Obama's chart shows an archetypical "Bucket" pattern (most planets within half the circle) yet has a uniqueness due to having two "handles" for the bucket (even though the two handles have more than 3 degrees between them, which the link I just gave you says is the limit; though, in Obama's case, one of the handle-planets is the ruler of the other's Sign, "pulling-in" the conjunction).

So, we'll look at Obama's Sun (of course), his Moon and Neptune (the "rim" or defining functions of the Bucket), and Saturn and Jupiter, the Handles or Focus of the whole chart.

I hope you have the basic materials of the system at hand
[ if not, do check out our Information Site for all the basics for using the B.I.D.E. Interpretive System...] as I use my intuition to select words and phrases to construct the five Symbolic Sentences that go very far in sketching-out the major soul-components of Mr. Obama's character.

His Central Life Purpose

Sun in Leo in the 9th House:
Vitalizing Creative Response in order to See the Broader Perspective.
The Defining Functions for His Primary Talents

Neptune in Scorpio in the 12th House:
Being Idealistic about an Analytical Attitude in order to Utilize the Resources of His Unconscious Mind.

Moon in Gemini in the 7th House:
Nurturing Conceptual Versatility in order to Initiate Sharing.
The Focal Release of His Talents

Saturn in Capricorn in the 3rd House:
Clarifying a Desire for Enduring Patterns in order to Make Connections.
closely linked with
Jupiter in Aquarius in the 3rd House:
Being Optimistic about Humanitarian Considerations in order to Be Aware of His Immediate Environment.

I can hear more than one person saying something like, "Whew! It's all so abstract!!".

My answer: Would you rather use a bunch of bits of concrete "indications", usually borrowed from others, to form an interpretation that limits and constrains your understanding of a living human being?

Certainly, as I've mentioned in past posts, these Symbolic Sentences, or Affirmations, are not intended to give quick and easy "answers"; they, just like the Symbols of the chart, need interpretation. And, here comes yet another experimental aspect of this post: I'm not going to show alternative Sentences for Obama (each Planet/Sign/House combination has 64 possible Sentences in the system...) and I'm not going to (in this particular post) start the process of giving more concrete shape to those Symbolic Sentences. I'm going to leave that up to you...

So that's what I said in the previous post about Obama and it does give some very large hints about the initial approach to analyzing a chart...

Soon, I'll be adding information about overall chart patterns to the Information Site and will certainly be doing other posts like this about other famous people...

BTW, who's chart would you want to see analyzed here...?


Bex said...

Do you think the reason for people wanting to see famous peoples charts could be because people want to identify their own potential for greatness?

I was pondering this earlier. Maybe people want to compare their own charts to see if the "have what it takes". People are obsessed with celebrity culture these days, and I find this odd at times as the most interesting people I can think of are certainly not famous or celebrities!

Maybe another reason is beacuse with celebrities we never get to see or know the real them, only the persona that they have developed for public life. Astrology can offer a glimpse in to the psyches of rich and famous maybe?

Obama is an interesting character.

Alexander M Zoltai said...

I feel most of the points you bring up are valid.

I'd also consider that, even though a famous person is "hidden" behind their celebrity, it's the closest we can all get to someone we have a *common* understanding of...

Jara said...

Thanks for this post :)

What time are you using for him? His Hawaii birth certificate states 7:24pm, which would give him a 6th house Sun and so forth.

Is this the Kenyan birth certificate? :-P

Alexander M Zoltai said...


I'm using the chart from:

Very reputable site, yet, I suppose there's a chance they're wrong?

Jara said...

Alexander, that's the birth time that someone "guesstimated" before he released his actual birth certificate sometime around July 2008.

His birth info:

August 4, 1961, 7:24pm Honolulu, HI
Giving him an Aquarius Asc. and Scorpio MC (more appropriate given his current career trajectory/public standing, no?).

Alexander M Zoltai said...


Thanks for the birth data update and the survey results...

I'm not writing more in this blog now but please go explore the companion site:

Much useful info there!!!

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